Stuff and...um...more stuff...

[weirdqafan]

It's so amusing to me. I stumbled across that _in_babylon group yesterday(?) while looking at one of my friends flists and happened to catch my name on there. Turns out, they've been reccing my icons. Awww...


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I've been rewatching some qaf episodes, mostly season 2, lately and made a couple observations or thoughts that I'll share (yes, I know that the characters aren't actually real, but I still wondered, so lets pretend they are for a sec):

~ In episode 209, Brian & Justin have what is an apparently Viagra induced sex marathon. In fact Justin even says: "I can't believe you're fucking me again." in disbelief, leading one to believe that Brian had already fucked him numerous times. If that's the case, how the hell was Justin able to sit comfortably on a hard chair at Woody's that night? Wasn't he the least bit sore and irritated? Shouldn't he have been shifting around, adjusting and readusting himself to relieve the pressure?


~ In episode 215, in a drunken, jealous rage Brian trashes and pisses on the comic book drawings. Now I've always interpretted this as being an extreme offense to Justin for a couple reasons.

1) The obvious, Brian was cruel and ruined something that Justin had worked hard on with the sole purpose of inflicting pain.

2) Even though they don't show it (at least not until episode 402), Justin still has problems with his drawing hand. This episode is relatively close to the bashing, ergo~ major hand troubles. Knowing this, we can also figure that to draw, even with the computer, all those drawings must have hurt his hand like a fucking bitch. And who would know more about Justin's ongoing hand troubles than Brian? Brian had to know just how such a laborious task would wreak havoc on his hand. He's been threre through practically his entire recovery, most likely watching firsthand as he struggled with therapy. He also saw the emotional effect of the physical injury. He watched Justin at his lowest struggling to deal with his hand. Justin's an artist and when he thought he wouldn't be able to draw and wouldn't be able to be in art school, it was as if his life was over. His art is such a part of him, even regardless of the hand problems. It defines him. Yet Brian destroys them without a second thought. What would that say to Justin about Brian's opinion of him? What does that say about the injuries Justin sustained at what was most likely one of the most critical and defining moments of his life. Which leads me to...

3) Those drawings weren't just a comic book with fake characters and a fake plot. Those were drawings of Justin's bashing. Even if the scenario wasn't exactly the same, the premise was. In a way, it was Justin's interpretation of it. Brian had to have known what they had decided on for the plot. No way either Mikey or Justin would NOT have mentioned it to him, especially since it's such a sensitive topic for Brian. And he was there during those planning sessions. Even if he was doing other things, he had to have heard them discussing it. In episode 402 when he says that Justin's pissed off, Justin replies: "Yeah, you would be too, if you got your head bashed in." And Brian's response is: "Yeah, I know...I was there." And even though he 'was there' and he knows what Justin went through, was STILL going through, he pissed and destroyed drawings of the bashing. He pissed on the bashing. What does that say about something that almost took Justin's life? What does that say about the importance of Justin's life? I know he wanted hurt Justin, but that was speeding across the proverbial line at 100mph and leaving it in the dust. Honestly, Brian's fucking lucky that Justin forgave him for that. If he forgave him for that. Maybe 'Ethan' was just a way of hurting Brian back for this (<--eh, I don't know about that. The thought just crossed my mind as I was typing this).

(I realized that this part kinda turned into a bit of Brian-bashing, but honestly, his actions in that episode have just always pissed me the fuck off. I know you could be all 'well he was drunk, probably high and blah blah blah' But ya know what: So the FUCK what. You DON'T do that! The fact that Chris Hobbs was drunk was noted as part of the reason he got off with a light sentence for nearly killing Justin.)

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I know there were a couple more things that I had thought of while watching the episodes, but I can't remember. I hate when that happens. Oh, well.

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[phibetafunkay.livejournal.com]

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[weirdqafan.livejournal.com]

[rhiannonhero.livejournal.com]

Oh, I think that the lack of respect that Brian showed for Justin, the bashing, the comic, his art, his life in general, by pissing and trashing the work played a HUGE role in the Ethan debacle. I mean, add that together with the birthday fiasco? Wow. Those two things alone were huge knives through Justin's heart. And there was so much more on top of that. Justin is a masochist (thank God) to have returned to Brian. Luckily, it seems Brian generally learned his lesson.

Re: 209, one of my fave things about that episode is when Justin comes out from the bedroom when Joan is there, walking all pigeon toed, pulling at his sweatpants, like his ass is killing him. Hee!! It is hysterical and pretty realistic--as well as making it very clear what was going on before Joan showed up.

[weirdqafan.livejournal.com]

I've always kinda figured that the combo of the four episodes leading up to the whole Ethan thing had a direct effect on it: 214, 215, 216, 217. 214, since one could argue that Justin was thrown off balance by being nearly raped that he became more emotionall dependent and needy. 215, for all the reasons I stated in the post. 216, for all the reasons stated in my next post *g* and 217 for after all of this shit building up, Justin needed to know that Brian wanted to be with him and wasn't (and since the asshole didn't take the time to explain it to him...). Luckily the boys are in a much better place now and that's where they should stay. :)

As for 209, I always though his walking in was soo funny, 'cuz it was obvious that Brian had really gone to town on his ass. I don't it had just struck me while watching that episode that: sore, well-fucked ass + hard, wooden chair does NOT = a good time.

[onthaedge.livejournal.com]

Oh, I so love you for all this! You articulated EXACTLY what I've been attempting to say since I saw Season 2. I really wish that CowLip had fleshed out the psychological effects on Justin after the bashing. Because I agree with what you said-- Justin would totally react to certain things differently than others. In my opinion, Episode 215 summoned the Beginning of the End of the B/J relationship (temporarily, of course). That's the one thing, out of all the crappy things that Brian has done on the show, that I will always hold a grudge against him for. I can't even imagine what Justin was feeling at that moment! I mean, if the most important person in my life pissed on my writing (which is my equivalent to Justin's art), then I don't think I could forgive them. And that's WITHOUT having impaired motor skills. So, when people say that the whole breakup was Justin's fault, I tend to get pretty pissed. They BOTH made mistakes, but I think it was Brian's act of cruelty in 215 that was the trigger.


Plus, I think that Justin resented the whole idea of the Rage party to begin with. IMO, this is because it was Brian's form of making things 'right' to Justin and Mikey after the 'comic incident'. We even saw a little bit of Justin's disgust with Brian in the beginning of 220, when J was at the comic book store, getting ready to have an interview with a magazine reporter. Justin resented the fact that Brian arranged everything without even consulting with him-- Justin, Brian's unconventional boyfriend, and co-founder of Rage. I always thought that, this particular scene in the comic book store was important-- it really showed that Justin wanted/needed to be treated like an equal in his relationship with Brian, instead of a child.


Actually, I agree you, when you mentioned that Justin was attempting to hurt Brian with the whole Ethan fiasco. Not completely though, because Justin was 'attempting to get his needs met' as well, which at the moment was affection, and communication (and romance, I suppose). In 220, something Bri said to Justin really struck a nerve-- "Don't piss on your achievements." That only fueled Justin's anger, because underneath the words, was the blatant reminder of what Bri had done to Justin's artwork. That right there led me to believe that Brian had planned the outcome of the Rage party ahead of time. He wanted to control when they broke up, and he did so by telling Mel and Linds that he was looking for Justin, and then promptly going into the back room to f*ck Rage.


The irony of that was incredible. Brian truly was f*cking himself over-- and he knew it. Justin saw Brian as his real life Rage-- his super hero, or savior. Jus even mentioned that he practically owed Brian his life in 213, (I believe it was the scene where J gave B a blow job in the jeep). However, Brian didn't expect Ethan to show up at the Rage party, and I think that's what made him realize the full impact of what was happening-- Justin really was leaving, whether he liked it or not.


Heh. Sorry, I got a bit carried away-- I tend to babble. So, I'll shut up now. And I doubt anything I said even remotely makes sense. Ah well.



Rage and Sunshine,


Amanda

[weirdqafan.livejournal.com]

Ramble away! I don't mind, really.

And I completely agree with you about the Rage Party. Brian is nothing if not the master of manipulation and that just reeked of his plotting. I read once in a fic where Brian had actually left Ethan an annonymous message about coming to the party. Now that part is just fanfic fantasy, but honestly~ it wouldn't surprise me if he had. He is such a perfectionist, even when it comes to shoving people off cliffs and fucking himself over.

As for 215, if someone I knew destroyed my artwork (I draw & paint occasionally as a hobby) like that, I would kick their ass and then never speak to them again.

:)